Friday, December 11, 2009

Friday Night Trade Talk

I'll be around all night, you know the drill Ballas, hit me up in the comments section and lets talk trades. Never sleep on your team, we can ALWAYS make it better. For the new guys, please read the SECRET SAUCE and the SCHOOL TIME posts, as I'll need your Saucy Numbers to really help you.

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Stay tuned, I'll hit up a post later tonight with my current top Buy Lows and Sell Highs. Got some real juicy players for you. Until then, LET'S TALK TRADES!

75 comments:

  1. Hey I'm still holding on pierce, but I'm not sure who I can deal him for. It's a special 5 starter league, with 8 bench, and right now my studs are Nash, Dirk, Bosh, Pierce, and Stoudemire (I just traded Bargnani and Love for Stoudemire, good trade?). My weakness with Nash is still in assists though, which is surprising since I have Westbrook also, and I have an abundance of points. Any help please?

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  2. Barg an Love for Stoudemire, love it. As for Pierce, try Deron Williams. He'sbeen on fire, and is def a top 10 player, but it's worth a try. Maybe add Westbrook to the deal too.

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  3. pts- 16.37
    3's-.67
    reb-6.15
    ast-3.44
    stl-.97
    blk-.64

    yeah my team feels weak, and im pretty sure i calculated it right this time
    what should i try to make a trade for and who should i send? thanks in advance man

    Deron Williams
    Ray Allen
    Jose Calderon
    Gerald Wallace
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Kevin Garnett
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Chris Kaman
    Mike Dunleavy
    Boris Diaw
    (and the three not included in stats)
    Joel Pryzbilla
    Marvin Williams
    Kevin Martin

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  4. 12 team h2h most cats league, 3 keepers, in year 2. I have managed two stockpile studs. My team consists of Lebron, Durant, Granger, D.Williams, J.Green, Diaw, Flynn, Scola and the rest aren't worth mentioning. Where should I go from here? I got 2 possible plans. Plan 1: Trade Granger or D-Will to gain back depth and make a run this year. Plan 2: Try to package 2-4 of Green, Diaw, Scola, Flynn for a top 30- 40 player, then in the off-season keep LBJ, Durant and one of Will/Granger for the first overall pick, finally try to trade the top 30-40 player for another mid to late pick. Believe it or not there are teams that are more talented than mine top to bottom, which plan makes more sense?

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  5. Awesome thanks a lot. I loved the trade also, I was originally targeting Butler from his team, with Love as he was lacking in rebounds, but he wanted bargnani, so I raised the stakes a little bit =). Coincidentally, he has Deron also. So should I try Pierce and Westy for Deron? Will that be a good trade?

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  6. I meant to say keep one of dwill and granger and then deal the other for the first overall pick.

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  7. Deven, it's deal Dirk to get CP3 man. Go for it.

    Anony, need the Sauce to help you bro. Read the secret sauce post.

    Fly High, YES!!

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  8. alright, the CP3 owner is in love with paul though, doubt he'll sell unless i give him top value, so what can i offer?

    I also offered Dirk & G.Wallace for rose,deron, and stoudemire should i cancel that trade? because i read your psychological post and i feel like i might be giving too little and seen as if i offer bad trades

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  9. I've already read the post, I'm just asking you which plan would make more sense. Thinking long-term dominance or make a run this year by using your formula with trades and such.

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  10. not deron, devin harris*

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  11. Awesome alright I'll see what I can do. How do you like my team so far? 12-team league with H2H Most Cats, 5 Starter 8 Bench

    PGs: Nash, Westbrook, Terry
    SGs/SFs: Pierce, Carter, JRich, CDR
    SF/PF: Gallinari
    PF/Cs: Bosh, Dirk, Noah, Stoudemire
    (empty slot)

    The trade hasn't gone throguh yet, but that's how it will look after the trade. Who do you recommend I pick up from waivers, there's bibby and lee as my top 2 (both recently dropped, haven't yet cleared waivers though), but there's also Ridnour, QRich and Przybilla. Any suggestions?

    Oh, and should I lowball the offer for Deron first? say Pierce and Terry? or should I go right into the Westbrook and Pierce offer.

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  12. Hey, I'm new to the site. I'm currently 8th out of 12 in a H2H 18 player league (11 cat: fgm, fg%, ft%, 3ptm, points, reb, off reb, assists, stls, blks, TO). My current rank as far as stats are:
    3 of 8 in fg%
    7 of 8 in ft%
    5 of 8 in 3ptm
    4 of 8 in points
    3 of 8 in off reb
    6 of 8 in reb
    2 of 8 in assists
    5 of 8 in stls
    8 of 8 in blocks
    6 of 8 in TO
    I was offerend my Westbrook for his J. Terry. Do I pull the trigger? Will this improve my team according to my stats? Thank you.

    Just incase you wanted to know who I have:
    Guards: Harris, Rip, Mo, Flynn, J.R Smith
    Forwards: Ilysova, Bargnani, Zbo, Love, A Randolph
    Center: Al Jeff, Haywood
    Utl: Haslem, Anthony Parker,
    Bench: Kevin Martin, Yi, Mike Miller

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  13. Deven, for me GWall is a DO NOT TRADE.

    Anony, ask anyone here. The Sauce IS domination.

    We fly, lowball the pierce offer for sure, bit I'd try Gallinari not Terry.

    Jack, welcome!! Please read the posts Secret Sauce and School time. Then we'll be on the same page. I need your Sauce numbers to help.

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  14. Okay, so I talked with the CP3 owner. I don't know if it'll fly. I think they recognize the value of Nowtizki and Westbrook... but my buddy was there when we were talking and pretty much talked him out of it. I'm not sure if it's for sure, but he's hurting in assists pretty badly apparently, and Paul is his only source..

    So should I be looking for other options? I know the big deal to make is Dirk for CP3 but if this doesn't go through?

    My team again:
    Dirk
    Love
    Nash
    Josh Smith
    Rondo
    Bargnani
    Lewis
    Westbrook
    Jeff Green
    CDR
    Ben Gordon
    Haywood
    Ilyasova

    Pts: 15.9
    Reb: 6.4
    Ast: 3.6
    Stl: 1.1
    3: 1.0
    Blk: .9

    What can I do?

    Thanks Thief!

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  15. Yeap, that sounds better as Terry has lost most trade value recently. How bout who to pickup? Bibby, Lee, Ridnour, or Przybilla?

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  16. Dave, I like you packaging up Bargnani with one of the five guys at the bottom of your list and try to get Deron Williams. But don't give up on CP3. That manager WANTS to deal with you.

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  17. Hey, love the blog, really good stuff.

    Quick question: In your opinion is Al Jefferson a good buy low? and if so, what are a few players that would be good to offer?

    Thanks.

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  18. Is Big Al slumping? Look if you can convince someone that he is, then by all means BUY THAT BIG AL LOW!!! I'd try offering Frye, Bargnani, Gallinari (start with these three, we can up it later if need be)...

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  19. Your blog is flat out saucy!
    AVERAGES;
    3'S PT REB AST STL BLK
    .98 16.06 6 3.69 1.28 .68
    Deron Williams
    rajon rondo
    tony parker
    kobe bryant
    anthony morrow
    channing frye
    david west
    jason rich
    marc gasol
    eric gordon
    al horford
    elton brand
    kevin love

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  20. That is my post above, for some reason it cut me short. I was wondering what work I could do to improve my team. I will trade anyone! Thanks. Its a h2h 10 person league. using FT made, FG made, TO, and techs

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  21. 3's, REB, AST, STL, BLK, PTS
    .64, 6.78,2.92,1.16,.68,13.1
    Kidd
    Brewer
    Harrington
    Bosh
    Camby
    G WALLACE
    Pau Gasol
    Al Thornton
    Court Lee
    Will Bynum
    Gomes Harden

    I wiil be getting Durant for Bosh(decent trade?) so the numbers will be a bit diffferent. What do you think? Thanks.

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  22. Anony, your team is Saucy! But you need Blocks bro. Can we deal Tony Parker, packaged with Marc Gasol and try to land maybe LaMarcus Aldridge or something similar?

    Shayne-o, you got lots of rebounds there. Def go through with that trade, Durant is a stud. At the end of the day, it won't hurt you. Then we need to try to deal Brewer, his value will fade fast. Maybe for Salmons?

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  23. I could deal both of them for sure. BTW beidrens is still avail. also. I was wondering if I totaled up my stats correctly to make the averages. I simply added up my averages then divided by players on my team.

    p.s. How do you rate my squad???

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  24. I had Salmons, dropped him because I had the #1 waiver wire slot, put in a claim immediately after I dropped him so he would remain on my team once waivers went through. But somehow, somebody else picked him up who was lower than me. Don't understand that one. Should I bite the bullet and take him back? It's hard for me to do. Thanks for the reply.

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  25. Hey,

    So I gave up on waiting for the Westbrook-Deng for Harris trade (almost a week with no answer...), and I was thinking of trying Westbrook for Eric Gordon straight on, and/or maybe a Boozer-Westbrook or Deng trade for Pau Gasol. I dont know if those are considered BUY LOWs but with the team/sauce numbers I sent you yesterday, do you think it would help me out? Thanks!

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  26. hey this Aaron i am back again here is what i got.Roto League 12 teams i am rank 9out 12 i need to shape this team up and i need the YA!!!
    The Sauce-
    3pt-.635
    Pts-12.2
    Reb-6.62
    Ast-3.2
    St-.95
    Blk-1.04
    TO-1.32
    the TEAM
    PG Andre Miller (Por - PG)
    SG Allen Iverson (Phi - PG,SG)
    G Jason Kidd (Dal - PG)
    SF Boris Diaw (Cha - SF,PF)
    PF Carl Landry (Hou - SF,PF)
    F Shawn Marion (Dal - SF,PF)
    C Erick Dampier (Dal - C)
    C Shaquille O'Neal (Cle - C)
    Util Anthony Parker (Cle - SG,SF)
    Util Wilson Chandler (NY - SG,SF,PF)
    BN Kevin Garnett (Bos - PF)
    BN Paul Millsap (Uta - SF,PF)
    BN Marcus Camby (LAC - PF,C
    so lets make it happen what do i need to i am guessing i need some major moves to move up i am sure u can find a way lol

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  27. sup dude, i play in a 12 team H2H league. currently in 10th, desperately need help..
    here's my sauce:
    points: 16.2
    blocks: .58
    steals: .95
    assists: 2.63
    rebounds: 6.24
    treys: 1.11

    How do you feel about dealing BOSH&CALDERON for PAUL&JASON THOMPSON OR AN INJURY-PRONE BOGUT?

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  28. That's my post above.

    If it'll help, here's my team:
    -Calderon
    -Mo Williams
    -Dahntay Jones
    -Crawford
    -Butler
    -Diaw
    -Bargnani
    -Jamison
    -Bosh
    -Al Jefferson
    BENCH:
    -Ilyasova
    -Dunleavy
    -Casspi

    Am i giving too much on that trade offer?

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  29. Shayne-o, don't let pride cloud your skill. This is about winning. Still, if you prefer, maybe go for Ben Gordon. Similar value.

    Anony, pull off the 2-1 trade, then grab Biedrins and at that point I really like your squad!

    DW, like you going for Gordon. Don't like you dealing Boozer an only getting Pau. Also, try flat out emailing the Harris owner. Trade Relation balla!

    Aaron, why are Camby and Garnett on the bench? Anyway I'd sell Camby high, maybe for Aldridge or Butler AND another guard like an Eric Gordon or Ben Gordon or Parker.

    Anony, while I already have CP3 on my team, if I didn't, then I would be willing to offer my mother and my first born child, packaged with Bosh to get a deal done. Land him, re run your sauce an report back!

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  30. this is aaron again i offered marcus camby and anothy parker for ben gordan and oj mayo
    i also offered marcus camby and anothy parker for tony parker and vince carter are these good offers? any other ideas???

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  31. What up Aaron, happy Saturday morning to ya. First offer is solid, the second one is asking a bit much, but if he'll do it for just Vince, then I give you the green light!

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  32. thanks good morning to u 2! this is aaron so while i am waiting on my offers to be viewed by the other managers have some other questions for regarding another team i have.this other team is a 20 team head to head 5 man keeper league-my 5 keepers are brenden jennings,zach randolph,monta ellis,antwnin jamison and brandon roy i worked my butt off getting those 5 guys the rest of my team is rookies and stuff nothing great players like chase budinger and tyler hansbrough.i am currently in 2nd place in the league and only one game back from first out of 20 teams so i think i am doing pretty well so what is your advice do i have 5 good keepers or do u c a way i can make it better?i tried to go young since i am using them again next year thanks in advance

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  33. I like four of them, but Z is questionable. Try for a budding star like Beasley maybe?

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  34. i actaully had mayo when him and randolph were ranked right by each other so i traded for randolph and since then randolph has had 2 pretty good games so my plan is to trade him while he is still hot cuz his numbers are higher then his career average so who should i trade for heads beasley? anyone else?

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  35. Yeah he'll be getting a Sell High post any day now. I like Beasleys progression so far, he's a talented kid. Another young budding star is Tyreke Evans. But if you can, try for one of the 'always great' players like Kevin Martin, Gerald Wallace, or Jason Richardson.

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  36. its funny u say tyreke evans cuz i had him on my team.....you are probably gona judge on this one haha i traded joakim noah,gilbert arenas and tyreke for antwan jamison and monta ellis. it would be awesome if i could get kevin martin. the guy wont trade gerald wallace i tried that already i think i could get jason richardson through

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  37. Same guy that asked about Paul&Thompson trade
    BOSH,CALDERON&CRAWFORD for PAUL,ALDRIDGE&MAYO.

    Asking for too much? and who is more valuble, JT or Aldridge?

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  38. I NEED HELP!!! MY FANTASY TEAM IS LOSING PRETTY BAD IN MY 12 MAN LEAGUE. IDK WHO TO GET ON MY TEAM I HAVE:
    C.J. WATSON
    DAHNTAY JONES
    GRANT HILL
    RAY ALLEN
    ANDRES NOCIONI
    DIRK NOWITZKI
    JOAKIM NOAH
    KEVIN GARNETT
    PAU GASOL
    DREW GOODEN
    HEDO TURKOGLU
    TONY PARKER
    CHRIS-DOUGLAS ROBERTS
    MICKAEL PIETRAS


    FANTASY THIEF! PLEASE MAKE SUM SUGGESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  39. I'm here to help playa, but first you need to read the posts Secret Sauce and School Time. We need to evaluate your sauciness to find the right deals!

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  40. hey How about Maggette.
    Can he improve in the next few month?
    I just dont need his FT

    Should I keep him or Trade him
    It looks he can not get 30mins again

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  41. OKAY I READ THEM, ONCE AGAIN IM IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP. HERES MY TEAM AND STATS:
    C.J. WATSON
    DAHNTAY JONES
    GRANT HILL
    RAY ALLEN
    ANDRES NOICINI
    DIRK NOWITZKI
    JOAKIM NOAH
    KEVIN GARNETT
    PAU GASOL
    DREW GOODEN
    HEDO TURKOGLU
    TONY PARKER
    CHRIS-DOUGLAS ROBERTS
    MICKAEL PIETRAS

    PTS:14.23
    AST: 2.53
    BOARDS:5.69
    TREY:.685
    STEALS:.86
    BLOCKS: .757

    AND!!! THERES A GUY IN MY LEAGUE WHO HAS A POINT GUARD TEAM WITH NASH,CP3,AARON BROOKS,RAJON RONDO..

    HELP!!

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  42. Anony1, mags is streaky, if you can get value, deal him.

    Anony2, yeeesh you need help. But we can work with this. I'd like to see you deal Dirk for CP3 and the KG for Aldridge AND another guard like Parker, e or b Gordon, or mo Williams. Then report back!

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  43. KG for two people?? im sorry i didnt really understtand what u meant with KG and parker and im pretty sure i could give him pau gasol for cp3, should i do that instead??

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  44. nvm pau would not work lol

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  45. o i get it,this one guy has both aldridge and e gordon, but i doubt hed trade them both for k.g..

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  46. Hi thief. Love your blog. It's awesome. Here is the sauce:

    PTS: 16.84
    AST: 4.12
    REB: 6.56
    3's: 0.92
    Steals: 1.17
    Blocks: .72

    10 team league, H2H, 8 Cat. My roster:

    CP3
    Igguodala
    Billups
    P. Gasol
    Nene
    Okur
    A. Bogut
    E. Gordon
    L. Aldrige

    Bench: CDR, Josh Howard, M. Dunleavy
    IR: R. Hamilton

    I am a bit behind in 3's and blocks. Was thinking of chaning Okur and J. Howard for S. Dalembert and C. Frye. Your thoughts or suggestions. Thanks man

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  47. Anony1, I'd be shocked if he didn't take that trade, but if he's stubborn then add in Watson or CDR. Also try reading the post Psychological Game, it'll help too.

    Anony2, I like you getting Dalembert for blocks for now, he's been good. It's a nice stop gap. For threes I'd rather see salmons than frye.

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  48. ok this is Aaron again so i offer camby and anthony parker for vincer and tony parker he countered me and offered grant hill and tajan prince for camby and shawn marion so i countered him and offerd camby for carter good move right?

    also i took your advice in one of my other leagues i offered josh smith and andrie kirlenko for brendon jennings and luis scola did i come out on top cuz he accepted it........

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  49. Uhhhhhhh camby for Vince = good. Smith for Jennings n scola? Son the whole idea of a sell high is to GET SOMETHING back. I said like Dwight Howard! Not Luis Scola!!!

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  50. aaron here. so i offered vincer for camby and he offers back camby and shawn marion for tony parker and grant hill?he said this looks better for me and that he thinks we can work something out so what should my next move be

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  51. Hey, about the KG trade, if i trade him for e gordon and aldridge, who would i drop? i was thinkin watson, so should i add him in the trade anyway?(if i should drop him?)

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  52. this is the kg man again lol, but why dirk for cp3? the only thing id get more of is assists and steals?without dirk i lose alot of free throws,points and rebounds.

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  53. Aaron, he's tryin to Trade Rape you bro. Read my latest post.

    Anony2, yes to Watson, yes to adding him in.

    And trust me on CP3.

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  54. yea i can see he is tring to trade rape me lol.so after he offered hill and parker i offered camby and marion for beasly and parker so he counters me kidd carl landry and camby for parker,jr smith and grant hill? so i counter him back and left a not saying i was a little insulted by his offer and the goal was to get closer to a deal and i offered camby and marion for parker and stuckey he then says sorry for insulting me and offer me jr smith,hill and parker for camby kidd and miller?do u just drop all communication with this guy or do u handle a situation like that?

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  55. Hey the kid declined the trade for KG and watson for aldridge and e gordon. i got cp3 for nowitzki tho. any other ideas???

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  56. Check the guy with Amares team. See if he has any guards that're around gordons rank. Then offer the same for them.

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  57. The guy with amare said he wouldnt even trade just amare for KG. Man things arent lookin too good :(

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  58. No need to fret Haus, you just landed CP3, give it two weeks and you'll be seeing bigtime results. We're in no rush, you're in a good spot. Maybe try for Howard, same type of offer?

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  59. Yeah but the thing is, the people in my league wouldnt trade a good forward/center AND a decent guard for KG. should i just try a one for one trade including KG?

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  60. They will bro, they will. KG is just starting to get hot. Once word travels that KG is back, they'll be offerin you whatever you want. Be patient an enjoy having Chris Paul. Such a huge advantage.

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  61. Allright, thanks man!

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  62. hey its The man with KG again, this kid offered me jason richardson for tony parker. should i accept?

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  63. DEVIN HARRIS
    JASON TERRY
    JOSE CALDERON
    RAY ALLEN
    CDR

    RASHARD LEWIS
    JOSH HOWARD
    TYRUS THOMAS
    ANDREI KERILENKO

    DWIGHT HOWARD
    AL HORFORD
    JOAKIM NOAH
    ANDRIS BIEDRINS

    12 team h2h standard 9cat

    this guy in my league is desperately trying to deal caron butler and i think he will give him up for little. Do u think i need him and also im trying to keep my core of bigs and also my 3 point shooters in allen lewis and terry. Any thoughts?

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  64. What up playa, to see how your team really is, read my Secret Sauce post, then run the numbers for your squad. Also, everybody could use Caron Butler. How desperate is the guy? Could you deal Thomas for him? If so, I'd do it. Caron won't be cheap much longer.

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  65. Hey its the KG man again, my names Elvis so lets stick to that lol. But yeah the guy took the trade back as soon as i was acceptin it!!!! So i have the same team, i got cp3 for dirk. and i dropped gooden for dampier. Im sorry if im botherin u alot but do u have any other suggestions? :)

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  66. Its Elvis, i talked to this one guy and he said to propose a trade tony parker for david west and he he will consider accepting. is that a solid trade?

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  67. What's up Elvis the King, parker for West is a HUGE upgrade. Jump on that ASAP, but be sure to play it off like 'well, parker is really good and West has been slumpin lately, but i guess i could use some extra rebounds'. Dont let on that we be thievin him!

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  68. Elvis:ight i just proposed it..and i pikd up jarret jack too and droped watsonn

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  69. Sup man its FRESHP again. barbosa is available on my waiver wire (just read ur new post) so can u think of any 2for1 deals with my squad stated above? Im in need of dimes and steals pretty badly and ill grab barbosa to fill the spot. Ive been in talks about grabbing a rondo but the other guy seems pretty keen on keeping him even though hes in last place.

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  70. Sup fresh. In general, I'd move Allen or Terry. Rondo would be nice. Why not try Terry for Arenas? Maybe toss in a bench player too

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  71. RUDY GAY FOR GRANGER IN A NON CAT LEAGUE 12 TEAMS I CAN AFFORD TO WAIT IM 6-1

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  72. If you can afford to wait, then wait. This injury is a tough one, takes a long time to heal and can linger. There's no rush to grab Granger, wait for more clarity.

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  73. Pts: 19.1375
    Rebs. 6.25
    Asts: 3.0625
    3's: .8
    Stls: 1.175
    Blks: .55

    I'm in a 10 team league with H2H.
    My current team looks like:

    Derrick Rose
    Kobe Bryant
    Carmelo Anthony
    Charlie Villanueva
    Al Harrington
    Carlos Boozer
    Ron Artest
    Kenyon Martin
    Tracy Mcgrady (currently waivered for Jarrett Jack)
    Michael Redd
    Michael Beasley
    Louis Williams(injured)

    Are there any trades or pickups I can make to get my roster "saucy" or above the "sauce" level? I just offered Melo for Bosh...is that a good deal if I get it? Thanks.

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  74. Hey its Elvis! The guy has like a 20 percent chance of giving me west now -_-. and CDR IS INJURED!!! any ideas on who i should pick up or what i should do?? PLEASE HELPPPP!

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