It's week one of the playoffs for football here in fantasy sports land and the Thief had been glued to the TV all day. No matter, I've still got time to drop a quick buy low and sell high on you balla's. After all, If there's one thing I learned from my high school coach, it's this:
The Only Way To Win, Is To Work Harder Than Everybody Else.
Nuff Said, let's move on to the picks of the day.
Buy Low - Gilbert Arenas - G - Washington Wizards
Gilbert started the season on fire, opening the season with a 29 point 9 assist performance, followed two nights later with a 32 point performance. Things went pretty downhill from there, fairly quickly. There was talk of a an injury, talk that he was just done, and most importantly for us his FG% was rock bottom. I tend to ignore rumors like that, and focus on the numbers. The Thief saw a guy who hadn't played in awhile, and was still getting his body used to the rigors of the game.
I waited for the Buy signal on Gilbert, and last night we got it. 22 points, 11 boards, 10 assists...yeah that's what we were waiting for. Gilbert is still showing numbers well below his career averages, and there's a chance the owner of him in your league either missed the performance last night, or will use it to sell him off. Time to strike! Let's take a look at the numbers:
GILBERT ARENAS
CAT 2009 career
PTS 20.7 22.7
REB 4.0 4.2
AST 6.8 5.6
3's 1.7 2.1
STL 1.0 1.7
BLK 0.2 0.2
TO 3.6 3.3
FG% 40.3 42.6
FT% 70.5 80.5
The extra dimes have been nice this year. I'm going to say that while they might not last, it's important to note that Flip Saunders has asked Gilbert to work on distribution over scoring. We know Gilberts last healthy season was a near MVP performace. I think he's still that guy, and there's a small window here where a non Top Three Tiered player (say like Tony Parker) could land you Agent Zero. Oh, and as for the 70% from the charity stripe. What do I mean when I say MEAN REVERSION?
"It's really frustrating," Arenas said. "I'm shooting them (free throws) all day. I mean, I don't even know why I'm sitting here talking about some free throws. I never fathomed that I'd be missing free throws again. Maybe it's just mental, because I'm making them in practice."
That FT% will be turning around real soon. Arenas currently ranks about 130 overall in standard roto formats. This is top 50 talent in a terrible season, top 15 most likely. Get on the block and work that trade!
Sell High - Nene Hilario - C - Denver Nuggets
I wasn't a believer last year, and I'm less of a believer this year. Whatever, Nene the Brazilian Monster has put up some great numbers and the time to cash in is now. This is a great guy to move in a deal for Amar'e or in a package to land a Tier 1 player. Let's check the numbers:
NENE HILARIO
CAT 2009 Career
PTS 13.3 11.6
REB 8.8 6.8
AST 2.5 1.7
BLK 1.0 0.9
3's 0 0
STL 1.5 1.3
TO 1.5 2.0
FG% 58.3 54.8
FT% 73.4 66.8
Not too shabby there, he's ahead in almost every category. This isn't some sophmore player we're talking about here, this is Nene who's in his 8th season! If nothing else the assists should drop and the TO's should rise. Nene currently ranks around 11 overall in a standard Roto league. He might be good, be he isn't 11 good. Cash this puppy in for a true 11, like Brandon Roy or Jason Kidd or Dwight Howard.
Alright, that's all for tonight. Back to football, where I'll hopefully be moving on to the second round of the playoffs by the end of the night. As usual feel free to drop any trade questions in the comments.
Sunday, December 13, 2009
Buy Low- Gilbert 'Hibachi' Arenas, Sell High - Nene Hilario
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I have a bit of a dilemma right now, i got Salmons for my worst player right now, but there are also Biedrins, Jameer Nelson and Mike Dunleavy on the FA. I really woud like Biedrins because I cuold use the rebs and hes fg%. Maybe I could also get Murphy for Jason Terry who I can afford to lose?
ReplyDeleteThanks ahead for any advice!
You need to work a 2-1 trade. Whenever there's guys on the FA Wire that I want on my squad, I work the 2-1 deals. Try to trade up for a Tier One or Tier Two player.
ReplyDeleteHey man love the blog. Quick question, would you consider Dunleavy a sell high and since Salmons is a buy low do you think that could be a good trade for me? In a 12 team h2h btw.
ReplyDeleteHey thief,
ReplyDeleteI started to pull some thievin so wish me luck. I'm offering Nene & Rip Hamilton for Amare. Let's see if I can pull it off. The target is married to his players, so I am not sure if I can land Amare. Talk to you later
Hey thief! I'm struggling in my 8-team league and according to your numbers, I'm below average in rebounds, 3s, and steals and just bout average in every other category.
ReplyDeleteMy team consists of B Roy, AI, J Kidd, Mike Dunleavy, Rudy Gay, Bargnani, P Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Tony Parker, Lamarcus Aldridge, Paul pierce, Kendrick Perkins, and Joel Pryzbilla.
I just dropped CDR for Pryzbilla. I desperately need to make a good trade and I just don't know who to give up, and who to trade for! Please help!
I just got offered a trade and I was wondering what you would think about it. I get Duncan, Rose, and Villanueva. I give Deron Williams, Marc Gasol, and Kevin Love. Please let me know what you think.
ReplyDelete3'S PT REB AST STL BLK
.98 16.06 6 3.69 1.28 .68
Deron Williams
rajon rondo
tony parker
kobe bryant
anthony morrow
channing frye
david west
jason rich
marc gasol
eric gordon
al horford
elton brand
kevin love
Anony1, dunleavy for Salmons is a good trade for sure.
ReplyDeleteAnony2, HOOK IT UP PLAYA!!
Sennator, Looks like you could use Rashard Lewis. Try dealing Tony Parker and dunleavy for him.
Take out Deron, put in Tony Parker an send it back over. You're supposed to do the thievin balla, not him!
ReplyDeleteHey thief, I forgot to mention, I offered this trade.
ReplyDeletePaul Pierce and Bargnani
for
Emeka Okafor and Rajon Rondo
Would this be a good deal if it was accepted?
Also, I just offered up Tony parker and Dunleavy for Rashard Lewis.. I'll let you know how it goes!
Thanks!
Nah dood, Sauce says you need threes. That's why I said rashard. Your trade has you losing two outside shooters. No good. Trust the sauce.
ReplyDeletehey i was offered durant for my deron williams and danilo ganillari ....my other point guards are nelson calderon and westbrook .... should i take it ?? im giving away my top assist guy and top 3 pt guy
ReplyDeleteHelllllll no son! You must be new to this site playa, you need to do some reading. Definitely sell Gallinari here, but the difference between Deron an Durant is tiny.
ReplyDeleteGab,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tip on the trade. I offered my boy parker. Im working on being a thievin balla!! Hopefully I up the sauce!
-Shorts
Haha... Ok I will trust the sauce and cancel my trade proposal.
ReplyDeleteya i am new .. just heard about this site 2 days ago.... im liking what your doing though.. thanks for the help
ReplyDeleteIf the Tony parker and Dunleavy for Reshard Lewis goes through, which FA should I pick up?
ReplyDeleteThe top FA available in my league consist of
Larry Hughes
Chris Anderson
Stephen Curry
Luke Ridnour
Beno Udrih
Sam Dalembert
Shane Battier
Sheed Wallace
Ersan Ilyasova
Josh Howard
Andres Biedrins
Chris Duhon
K-Mart
Hey Thief
ReplyDeleteanyway to improve my team
16 team head to head category league
Cats are Field Goals Made Free Throws Made Three Pointers Made Offensive Rebounds Defensive Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks Turonvers Double Doubles Triple Doubles Quadrouple Doubles and points
my team
PG Derrick Rose
SG Tyerek Evans (PG SG)
SF LeBron James
PF Carlos Boozer
C Al Jefferson (PF C)
UTIL Luis Scola (PF C)
UTIL Russell Westbrook
BENCH
JR Smith
Corey Brewer (SG SF)
Danilo Gallinari (SF PF)
Jason Thompson
IR Fracisco Garcia (SG SF)
Sennetor, Hughes or Dalembert. Depends on the stats u need. Refer to the sauce playa.
ReplyDeleteAnony, well then welcome! I'm glad to help. Spread the word!!
Anony2, yeah but in the future, refer to the secret sauce post so I can better help you. But I can see that u should deal gallinari n scola for either Duncan, Howard, Garnett or Amare. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteafter calculating my new numbers after dropping cdr and picking up pryzbilla, the only category i'm above average is blocks. everything else i'm below average.
ReplyDeletepts 15.06
assists 3.16
rebs 6.07
3s .71
steals .76
blocks .82
did I make a bad move droping cdr?
and gilbert arenas IS on the trading block... who should i offer for him?
ReplyDeletefor the sauce formula do i add the averages of my lineup and then divide by number of weeks or do i do something else
ReplyDeletehi,
ReplyDeleteshould i trade (1 of) erick dampier or chris anderson for (1 of) dwight howard or carlos boozer?
thanks!!
Use Gilbert to Sell high?
ReplyDeleteAfter his triple double night. Enough of Andre Ig. or B. Roy?
hi there. i'm in a 12 team H2h league. here's my team:
ReplyDeletesteve nash
jason terry
rodney stuckey
tony parker
kevin durant
antawn jamison
josh smith
gerald wallace
al horford
andrea bargnani
channing frye
marc gasol
mike dunleavy
stephen curry
chris douglas-roberts
nate robinson
how does my team look? should i make any trades? also, out of dunleavy,curry,frye, and bargnani, who would you not start this upcoming week? thanks in advance.
i am in a 12 team league. my roster:
ReplyDeleteChris Paul
baron davis
gilbert Arenas
jamal crawford
Jason richarson
brook lopez
Zach randolph
paul pierce
josh howard
shawn marion
thaddues young
tracy mcgrady
kirk hinrich
Kenyon martin
joel przyilla
chris andersen
I know it's a pretty bad team. Any suggestion on trading. Using one of guards? Or pick up from bench?
Erick Dampier
Chris Duhon
T.J. Ford
Mickael Pietrus
Jarrett Jack
Hey Thief!
ReplyDeleteBad news. CP3's owner just officially rejected the Dirk trade. He says he needs CP3 for the assists and wants to ride out Caron's performance... (smart guy). Doesn't help that Caron just put up some good numbers. He's 8th in the league though, so if Caron takes a while to be consistent and I offer Nash, I might be able to close it in time...
Is there anything I can do in the meantime? I proposed the Bargnani/Ilyasova trade for Deron Williams, it's a little low, I know, but this guy doesn't seem to check his team. So, I might upgrade it, but I'm not sure if it'll even go through since he's never on.
I've been trying to deal for Arenas and Al Jefferson for awhile, but the owner hasn't been checking either. This league is apparently pretty inactive :(.
My team again:
Dirk
Love
Nash
Josh Smith
Rondo
Bargnani
Lewis
Westbrook
Jeff Green
Felton
Ben Gordon
Haywood
Ilyasova
I dropped CDR for Felton. CDR was just too streaky for me, and now he's injured. I got Felton for one of his good games now too. I don't think he'll be consistent like this for the season, but I'm going to ride his highs, and try to trade him away before its too late.
The new sauce numbers:
(admittedly they're lower now, but Ben's production will increase them, I'm sure)
Pts: 15.5
Reb: 6.3
Ast: 3.9
Stl: 1.1
3: 1.0
Blk: 0.8
I'm leading the league in blocks, distant second in assists, third and fourth in rebounds and points respectively...
Hi Thief,
ReplyDeleteJust found about the blog a week ago and I'm loving it, love the analysis and the advice!
What do you think of Bosh+Landry for Danny Granger+Kevin Martin? From what I've read, I know I'm not supposed to target players injured / coming off of injuries, but this trade seems like a great way to turn one Tier 2 into two Tier 2s for my team that's not dominant in any one category.
If needed here are my league details + sauce: 10 team H2H league (11 cats, standard 8 as well as TOs, free throws made, and 3PT%), here's my team and the sauce:
Baron Davis
Jason Kidd
Chauncey Billups
Ray Allen
John Salmons
Courtney Lee
Michael Beasley
Carl Landry
Chris Bosh
Andrea Bargnani
Mehmet Okur
Andrew Bogut
Erick Dampier
Pts: 14.79
Reb: 6.03
Ast: 2.92
Treys: 0.95
Stl: 1.05
Blk: 0.87
Thanks,
Anthony
What should I do with Elton Brand? Is he a sell high right now? Will Speights mess up his numbers when he gets back?
ReplyDeleteSennator, try dealing Big Perk for Hibachi Arenas, then grab Dalembert off the FA wire.
ReplyDeleteSkeet, my school time post will help. But it's add the averages of each guy and divide by number of guys. Be sure to only include starters.
Anony1, is that a trick question?! Yes you should do both, then send the Thief a league invite next year!
Michael, need your sauce numbers bro. Read the post secret sauce, it'll help us both to evaluate your team.
Fang, same thing. We can't evaluate without your sauce numbers. Your team is better than u think.
Dave! What up playa! Sorry bout the CP3 trade, he IS a smart manager. Don't be afraid to use phone/email to deal for Deron. Get a lil pushy. I like you goin after Arenas and Al Jeff too. Hang in there, sauce says your team should be top 3 as is for your league.
Anthony, from what I know, Martin will be back mid January and Granger is a big ? for timeframe. At the least there's no rush to make that deal. Wait for more clarification, especially from Granger, that injury scares me cause it lingers.
Anony, People keep talkin about Speights. Is he due back this week? There's no rush playa. Sixers are shopping Brand hard to other teams, hate to see ya deal him off before we even get a whiff of where he'll go.
Who do you think I can trade for using Nene?
ReplyDeleteIs Nene and Terry for Stoudmire or Durant too much?
Also what's your view on how much Pierce and Roy are actually worth?
Nope those are perfect deals. Especially for Amare. Roy is a Tier two player, I wouldn't be looking to deal him unless I got a tier one back. For Pierce I'd try n get a Tier one or two, but def sell him high here. If you're unfamiliar, refer to the post Top Tiers.
ReplyDeleteOk this trade just went down. How this
ReplyDeleteNene/Pierce/Terry
For
Salmons/B.Roy/D.Lee
I recieved salmons/roy/lee.
Wow great trade! Roy dominates Pierce. Lee dominates Nene. Salmons and Terry are pretty even, but Terry has been hot and Salmons cold, which should flop, so I like Salmons going forward.
ReplyDeleteThanks!!
ReplyDeleteI followed your advice. Now let's see if I can move up from second to first following these trades.
Hi Thief!
ReplyDeleteHow do you think Z.Randolph and Haywood
Can they keep thier performance? or Just
look like sell high candidate
My team...
ReplyDelete13 man Roto so I don't know what sauce # I need
but
Points 15.55
Assits 3.39
Rebounds 6.23
3s 0.61
Steals 0.95
Blocks 0.69
I'm really behind in 3s and others a little under average of the 12 man roto numbers so I should be ok.
I did some major trades and I only have 2 people that I started with.
C.Paul (drafted)
B.Roy
O.Mayo
D.Jones
J.Salmons
D.West(PF)
D.Lee
P.Gasol
J.Przybilla
S.Hawes (drafted)
Bench
Matt Bonner
Tyrus Thomas INJ
Marreese Speights INJ
Since it's 13 man roto, the FA is really dry...
Brandon Rush, Yi, Marcus Thorton, Omri Cassapi, Nate Robinson are available...
Currently in 2nd place behind in 3s and FT% and points but FT% and Points are from the team I drafted.
Anony, the jury is out on z-Bo, he's been solid, I wouldn't deal him just yet. As for Haywood, try working him in a 2-1 with one of your better bench guys (like a dunleavy) for someone like Okafor.
ReplyDeleteEpiphany, love the name bro. Your team looks alright do far, I agree youre down in treys but Johnny salmons will pick that up. You have no good sell highs right now, be patient and we'll reasess soon.
what are your thoughts on Jammeer Nelson? Worth giving up Ray Allen to get him? bibby and hill? your take? im just worried that allens minutes will decrease as the season wears on.
ReplyDeleteGreat Blog. I'm glad that I found it. I'm in a 9 team roto leage with 9 standard cats. I need help with my 3 balls and FG% and thats about it basically. I'm in first for pts, reb, ast, stls and blks. I have decided to punt TO's. How can I help my FG% & 3pts made. I've been looking to acquire Jet and now with this blog i'm considering Redd but don't know what to offer. Here is my roster->
ReplyDeletePG: Rondo-T.Parker-Tyreke Evans
SG: Wade-BRoy-Morrow
SF: Iguodala-Deng
PF: Nowitzki-Garnett
C: B.Lopez-Brand-Pryzbilla
Thoughts?
3 things, first read the post secret sauce so we can work the numbers to see what u really need, then if you DO need treys, shoot for either a Dirk for CP3 trade or a Pryzbilla for Salmons, Ben Gordon or Eric Gordon trade. Good luck!!
ReplyDeleteHey, I just shipped Carter and Roy for Wade and West. I had an abundance of points, but I was lacking a bit in assists, so I'm thinking of shipping Jamison for a Pierce? Will that be worth it?
ReplyDeleteHi Thief,
ReplyDeleteFang Again. Got the number for my starting line up:
Points 17.51
Assists 3.94
Rebs 5.09
Blocks 0.49
Steals 1.20
3Ps 1.24
So according to your number, i'm lacking in blocks. but have some guys in bench that can make up for it. However, i'm dying in fg% b/c of arenas and B. davis. I think i need to trade one of them for a forward with better fg%.
Starting line up:
Chris Paul
Gilbret Arenas
Baron Davis
Paul Pierce
Jason Rich.
Jamal Crawford
Josh Howard
Thaddeus Young
Zach Randolph
Brook Lopez
Bench:
Kenyon Martin
Joel Przybilla
Chris anderson
Shawn Marion
Kirk Hinrich
tracy McGrady
And this is a 12 teams H2H league. Not many players in avaliable in the Bench.
T.J. Ford
Mike Bibby
Andris Biedrins
Mickael Pietrus
James Harden
Any suggestions?
I went over the math and my three ball production came out at .71 for my starting lineup and that's with using Morrow as a utility. Everything else came up looking real nice. I was above the average for Pts, REb, ast, stls and blks.
ReplyDeleteThief, I take back my last trade. The final trade that was accepted after lengthy negotiation was:
ReplyDeleteI give: Roy, Carter, Gallinari for
I get: Wade, Ben Gordon, Murphy
I had the choice between West and Murphy...and I chose Murphy as he would help replace my 3pt needs that I lost with gallinari. Did i do the right choice?
Fang, good numbers! Now try a 2-1 with either Pierce or Davis and target Dwayne Wade. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteJames, the sauce is key to understanding your team. I bet you look better than you thought!
FlyHigh, I love that deal for you! Wade is as close to Tier One as you can get!
=] do u think west > murphy in long run tho?
ReplyDeleteI'm indifferent between the two really. Too close to call.
ReplyDeleteHey thief thinking got offered devin harris for vince carter, in a H2H league what you think?
ReplyDeletesorry forgot to add my sauce numbers
ReplyDeletepts 16.4 , ast 2.6, 3ptm 0.8, fg% 552, stl 1.03
I like you getting Harris, no doubt. It'll go a long way toward fixin those low dimes! But VC for Harris, playa you ain't getting PAID on that. Ask for a little more, but keep at it. Toss in a bench player on your side for a nice Buy Low on his side. Let's ink this deal!
ReplyDeleteHey Thief. You were right Your sauce has put the strengths of my team into a much more clear persepctive. That being said my three pts made are well below the number I need/want. A guy in my league owns Arenas, Salmons and Ben Gordon. He has asked for my Tyreke Evans and Deng for Gordon and Salmons. I'm hesitant to give up Reke. What do you think?
ReplyDeleteJimmy! Top o the mornin to ya. I hear you wantin to keep reke, especially if you're in a keeper league. Counter him with Deng for Ben, straight up. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteSame to you thief! Man you are quick and I love it. LOL. Thanks allot. I'll let you know if he goes for it.
ReplyDeletePS. It's not a keeper league.
hey thief, been following your blogs daily. i have been offered this trade. my nene for my friends thad young and mayo.
ReplyDeletei would drop illysova.
my squad: 10 team h2h
chris paul, deron, calderon, lou williams
j rich, ariza, deng
illysova, brook lopez, barngni, noah, scola, nene
any other suggestions about my team would be great.
thank u!!