Saturday, December 26, 2009

Secret Sauce BREAKTHROUGH

Hello Thief Nation! Wait til you see what I have in store for you! I was up all night last night, working to the wee hours of the morning on some new spreadsheets that I plan to roll out over the next few week. For starters, I plan on rolling out a platform (Free of course, cause the Thief got you covered) where you only need to enter the players on your team and it will produce your team sauce numbers for you. Now I'm putting a little more into this, so suffice it to say I'll have a much more robust Sauce number for you and will statistically adjust for Rookie, Sophmores, Veterans, and even injuries. I hope to get this out by early next week. Down the road I also plan another Buy Low/Sell High platform, but I'll save the details for when it is ready. Oh, and I'll have all this stuff for Fantasy Baseball too, since it is also a Rottisserie based league (even H2H is ROTO). Get pumped fellas, this will be sick.

Anyways, I'm going to post an oldie but goodie today on the Psychological Game. It's important stuff to either review, or read for the first time. Makes a big difference. As always, feel free to hit me up with a question as I'll have the IPhone on me all day.

We’re taking a bit of a different turn today to talk about the psychological part of playing in a fantasy sports league. For me, this is what separates the top dogs from the bottom dwellers. Everyone has access to stats, and every serious player does their homework, but not everyone is smart about how they play against their opponents. One thing that I believe distinguishes me from many of the columns you read on fantasy sports is that I’m not a basketball expert, or a baseball expert, or a football expert, but I am a fantasy expert. I’m not just going to tell you so and so is good, or this team is hot, or this guy is injured. Instead I’m going to tell you how I win because that’s what’s most important.

For starters, let’s talk about trade relations. In order to be successful at trading you have to, first and foremost, establish and maintain solid trade relations with your opponents. Don’t be that guy who makes a move, then jumps on the message board and boasts ‘HAHA I just Trade Raped you fool!’ All that does is ensure at least one member (and probably more) of the league will never deal with you again. Take the opposite approach. I like to send warm fuzzy’s to my trade counterparts prior to the deal. Make comments like, ‘Look, I know I’m giving up a lot here, but I really need a 3 point shooter so I am OK making this deal’. Or, ‘Hey, you seem to make deals that work out well for both teams involved, so I’d like to make a move with you’. Keep it amiable; stroke their ego, idiots love their ego stroked. After a trade is done, I like to jump right on the message board before anyone else and send Kudos to the counterparty. Let everyone know this was a solid deal ‘Hey Bob, nice deal. It was good working things out with you. I hated to part with Paul Pierce as he is a beast, but I needed a PG so thanks for that’. Down the road, people will forget the deals, forget where they got certain players, but always remember that you’re a good guy to trade with. Being that ‘good guy’ means not only will they be more willing to deal with you, but they’ll be willing to send YOU offers. The best trades I have ever made are ALWAYS the one’s people have sent me. They watch a guy have a bad game, they get emotional, probably had a few beers or something, and they go right to me with a stupid offer that I jump on. End of story.

Next, let’s talk about what you are offering. At the end of the day, you do not know how anyone else values their players. I love Brandon Roy, but the guy in my league might think he is just OK. Never be afraid to make an offer for any player whatsoever, worst thing that happens is a rejection with a note telling you how much the manager loves his player. With that said, DON’T MAKE EMBARASSING OFFERS. This is a sure fire way to make people hate you, they will stop looking at your offers altogether and you’ll become ‘the guy who makes bad offers’. Want an example? I just got offered Eric Gordon and John Salmons (two guys I think are a solid buy low) for CP3. That’s stupid. All that offer did was make me say to myself, ‘well, no need to try and deal with him’. If the same kid sent me Deron Williams and Eric Gordon, sure that might not be enough for me to make the deal, but it is reasonable. That’s the key, be reasonable. I like to send offers to people that tip in my advantage, but ever so slightly, almost unnoticeably. Be sly.

Finally, know your opponents. Use email, use offers, use the message board, use conversation and follow what they do in other trades to determine who you are playing against. Think of this as like playing poker. You have a HUGE advantage knowing the strategies and reactions of your opponents. For me, in my league, we got all kinds of players. There’s the guy who is willing to make a lopsided deal, so long as he is giving up a category he is strong in and getting a player back that he is weak in. Bam, he’s in my back pocket, and earlier in the year I dealt him Mike Miller (when he was doing well, for three pointers) and got Gerald Wallace (when he was slumping and his FG% was abysmal). I knew the manager, targeted him with what he needed, made the bold offer, and executed. Then there’s the guy who focuses too much on recent production, not enough on the players career. Bam, he’s in my back pocket. Dealt him Jason Thompson for Caron Butler. Then there’s the guy who is trade happy, he’s always just looking to make a deal, so long as he perceives it to be somewhat fair, and has no concern over what’s good for his team. BAM, got him in my pocket. Dealt him Channing Frye for Stephen Jackson. Then there’s the guy who is all about name value. No matter what the deal is, if he’s heard of the player before and someone said the guy is a superstar, he’ll love the deal. BAM, he’s in my back pocket and I dealt him Gilbert Arenas for David West and Allen Iverson. Finally there’s the guy who won’t trade until mid-season, and then will start making terrible deals because he panics about where he is. BAM, he’s in my back pocket. I’ll be the only one sending him offers in January (when everyone else just figures he doesn’t trade) and snagging some gold players on the cheap.

Get to know these guys and their styles. By meshing your offers and communication with their styles, not only will you have more successful trades but you’ll also find them willing to continue trading with you. Even the guy who dealt me Gerald Wallace, he doesn’t view it as me snaking him, he just thinks he made a mistake, and he’s happy to make another move with me in the future.

Good luck is the games this evening and stay tuned for more information regarding the big Secret Sauce Roll Out!

23 comments:

  1. I'm trying to trade granger and ellis for lbj an dunleavy. do you think it will go through?

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  2. yo thief, this sounds so sick, can't wait for the new features!! Also, I noticed that you posted on your superbowl post that you're gonna have thoe early baseball tiers up soon. Looks like you didn't forget about them when I asked after all! haha. Check out my comment on that latest bowl post, it was a pretty good one, lemme know what you think of it on here. Thanks thief!

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  3. ayo, big pav out here

    i got two offers. my pau/antawn for his: gwallace/lopez how is that?

    or my: bargnani/butler/bynum for: m. ellis/howard
    let me kow how you feel about both of those? or how i should rework them

    Saucy #'s
    pts: 16.66
    3's: .94
    Rebs: 6.72
    Asts: 3.4
    Stls: 1.13
    Blks: .75

    p.s. i cant wait for the updates, mang. Before i would encourage some of my frineds (that dont play in the same league as me) to check you out (which they havent...idiots), now i will no longer adivise anyone. this is a pot of gold! you're legit, pimpin.

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  4. These updates sound too legit man. Thanks a lot, and Happy Holidays

    WeFlyHigh

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  5. Thats whats up!! Personality traits are evident in fantasy sports and you'd be a fool not to read and capitalize on them! Great post...quick question. Speaking of B Roy; its tough for me to piece together a "fair" offer for him. I have Rondo and am willing to part with him along with someone else for B Roy. Can this someone else be one of the following (CharlieV, Marion, Beasley, Salmons)? So Rondo+ one of those for B Roy? Or am I low-balling B Roy's value too much? Keeping in mind its a keepers league where we keep 3 at the end. thanks

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  6. Erik, why ask for dunleavy too?

    Stodds, workin so hard right now.

    Pavel, I like those deals for you. And remember, the more traffic I get, the better for me. The updates will be SICK NASTY!!

    FlyHigh, takin this sh1t to the next level

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  7. hey thief
    is trading pierce and murphy a good idea if im getting b roy and channing frye

    sauce
    .8 3s 14 pts 6.4 reb 3.3 ast 1.1 st .7 blk

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  8. ayo, not to be bothersome. but can you elaborate more. cuz the players im offering in both trade are the ones you like. how about the ones im getting back? is it fair?

    thanks pimpin

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  9. Garg, no. Try Murphy for Roy straight up.

    Pavel, good lookin out. I read it backwards. In both cases you're selling treys? Why? You need some more if anything and you're ok with the boards. I'd say pass. I thought u were getting treys which is what u want to do.

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  10. theif i posted a rondo and b roy question just above your first reply to this thread. Can you have a look and let me know - thanks! Also I just offered Udrih for Speights, and also for Dampier, need a big.

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  11. yeah man. i need assists, blocks and 3's. i basically need another pf who blocks and gets 3's(like dirk, which i offered) and/or a pg like nash who shoots 3's and gets assists

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  12. p.s. is nene and caron too much for dirk? I'm thinking of doing 2 for 1 trades and get tyrus thomas on my team for added blocks.

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  13. Hey pavel, that's more like it. I like u sellin Nene high here n cashin in. It'd be lucky if he says yes tho.

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  14. Intro, you underestimate rondo. He has top 40 value with those steals. I say rondo n salmons, not a penny more (well maybe Marion).

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  15. Thanks Thief - trust me I really like Rondo and am not looking to actively trade him but if there is an opportunity to get a guard like B Roy or Joe Cool in a keepers league that I can keep along with Wade and someone else I am thinking about doing so, especially in a Roto league! My league settings slightly favors scorers! I'll see if I can send Rondo+ one of those guys for B Roy but won't offer more then that. Additional question, should I try and trade my Kaman for KMart? I'm really liking Kaman's production and am not big on loosing a C, but could use KMart's FTM as thats my lowest category. Thoughts on Kaman for Kmart? thanks

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  16. I just offered jackson and ray allen for conley and pierce. good trade?

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  17. Guess its my turn to ask for help! I'm like, last in my league after this week..

    12 team h2h

    Chris Paul
    Brandon Jennings
    Michael Redd
    Jason Richardson
    Jeff Green
    Yi Jianlian
    Emeka Okafor
    Rajon Rondo
    Chris Kaman
    Andrew Bogut
    Charlie Villanueva
    Kevin Martin

    pts = 16.78
    3's = 1.02
    reb = 5.96
    ast = 3.60
    st = 1.26
    blk = .77

    notable FA = TT, Hawes, Randolph, Blake griffin, dally,
    any advice?

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  18. What's up Thief! Merry Christmas (late).

    Who would you start between these 2?

    Michael Bush vs. CLE
    or
    Addai vs. NYJ

    I'm leaning towards Bush because it doesn't look like Fargas will play Sunday and the Jets got a better defense and they actually need this game.

    What are your thoughts? Thanks!

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  19. Intro, kevmart dominates kaman, nuff said.

    Erik, love it!

    keV, work redd in a 2-1, then grab TT

    Andy, addai, no doubt at all

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  20. thief, your thoughts on yi jianlian?

    he had a pretty good 1st game back from injury...
    does he have one of those lingering injuries or is he good to go?

    I need rebounds/blocks... but noone in my league is willing to deal so... I'm stuck with WW pickups.

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  21. Senn, I'd be movin him for value if I could. Wayyyy too many injuries. None lingering, but he's part Yao part oden, ya feel me? Def worth a roster spot, def will be injured again.

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  22. Looking to deal some players here:

    My Sauce:
    Points - 19.19
    Assists - 3.71
    Boards - 6.52
    Treys - 1.24
    Steals - .97
    Blocks - .68

    My Squad
    Arenas
    Stuckey
    Davis
    Carter
    Granger
    Thompson
    Duncan
    Z Randolph
    Ariza
    Harrington

    Jinlian
    Dunleavy
    McGrady
    Salmons

    Any chance I can make a play for Joe Johnson and Gerald Wallace? An owner low on 3 pointers has both players. I was thinking about offering Granger and Ariza or Thompson for Joe Johnson and Wallace. Any chance this goes through, or should I offer something different? You the man Thief!!!

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  23. X and 1, let's work ariza, Danny g AND JT for Joe j and GWall. Knock it down. Sound off if your pumped for Mondays secret sauce calc roll out! Holla if ya hear me!!

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